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Post by spock on 2/16/2010, 2:39 am

I am interested in a Wildcat 29rlbs,what I would like to know is can you use the bathroom and the bedroom with the slides in? I like this floorplan and since I plan to boondock a lot the large holding tanks are nice and also the heated tanks,the double pane windows are nice too . I like to camp all year,,I like to see it snow. I have learned a lot by reading this forum so far.

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Post by Admin on 2/16/2010, 3:05 am

I think the majority on here own that type of model. So your about to get your answer.
I know on my 32Qbbs you can still use the toilet with the slides in.

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Post by Rhino on 2/16/2010, 3:13 am

Welcome to the forum spock. I can use the bath and bedroom on my 30 LSBS and get into the frig with all slides closed. I have to slide side ways to get to the bench to eat and able to walk to the back of the camper.

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Post by MountainMan on 2/16/2010, 3:24 am

Yes you can use the bath and bedroom with slides in. Not much room to move around in the living and bedroom areas with slides in but you can definitley use them and sleep just fine.

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Post by Stanford on 2/16/2010, 3:29 am

We have a 2006 29RLBS and yes you can use both the bathroom and bedroom with the slides in. On the 06 the heated holding tanks were not a option. The 3 holding tanks do give you extra time between dumping. Jim

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Post by Frank on 2/16/2010, 5:53 am

to the forum spock.
We have a 2005 29RLBS and agree with the rest of the owners. This is my second wildcat. I really like the floor plan of the 29RLBS.

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Post by Scruffy and Tater on 2/16/2010, 3:38 pm

You can use the bedroom with the slides in, but some of the drawers would be blocked by the slide wall. So, don't have anything you would need (like underwear) in those three drawers. Also, there wouldn't be any room to walk around the bed. The entire bathroom is easy to get to. It isn't affected by the slide at all.

When we're traveling, we stop at rest areas and use our own facilities. At lunch time, we'll get sandwich stuff out of the fridge. Since our dinette is strapped in, and we have stuff stored between the sofa and dinette chairs, we can't eat at the table, so we sit on the sofa. The kitchen/dining room/living room area has room for us to move around - about the same as the older trailers that didn't have slides.

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Post by oldelmer1 on 2/16/2010, 4:32 pm

Hello spock and welcome to the forum.

We too have a 2006 29RLBS, and I guess I dont have anything else to say that hasn't already been covered....

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Post by scottz on 2/16/2010, 5:40 pm

Yes, you can use both; I have. Just a little tight getting there.

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Post by Maxtor on 2/23/2010, 6:37 am

The slides are no problem, it's just that darn second lounge chair that you have to deal with. When we stop for lunch on a trip, we run the living room slide out about six inches and it gives enough room to move around and eat at the table. On our 2007, you have to run the bed room slide out first, then run the living room out six inches, then run the bedroom slide all the way in. It would be nice if you could move them in and out independently, with two different switches.

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Post by MountainMan on 2/23/2010, 5:49 pm

Maxtor wrote:The slides are no problem, it's just that darn second lounge chair that you have to deal with.


This is my number one complaint with the 29RLBS. I don't like the idea of wrestling that chair every time the unit is used.

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Post by Scruffy and Tater on 2/23/2010, 8:01 pm

Getting the inside ready for travel is my responsibility. Moving that heavy chair was a hassle, but I could do it. When we put in our desk, we replaced the swivel rockers with office chairs. The wheels make the job much easier.

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Post by spock on 3/1/2010, 3:06 am

I have a problem with pin weight and need some advice

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Post by Scruffy and Tater on 3/1/2010, 4:54 am

What's the problem? I'm sure someone on the forum will be able to help.

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Post by Scruffy and Tater on 3/1/2010, 5:01 am

Regarding the chairs. If we hadn't put in the desk, and changed out our chairs, we might have removed that one chair and made a nice storage cabinet or put in a small chest of drawers (I suppose a ready-made nightstand would fit nicely). Since there isn't a window on the side wall, a thin "closet" might hold jackets and raingear. Gee, if I didn't like that desk so much Scruffy might have a new project to do.

By the way, the chairs weren't too hard to take out.

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Post by spock on 3/1/2010, 9:53 pm

I have a Silverado 2500 diesel 4X4 and I think I can scale 2500lbs,I have a 90gl extra fuel tank and four 6volt batteries plus 3000 watt inverter and a 40amp charger. I would like to be able to be legal at some time as I know I will not carry all that fuel all the time. I think on the 29RLBS the fresh water tank is in the rear of the trailer,if I fill up the tank will that make the pin weight lighter? If I have less than 20% on the pin will the trailer ride smooth or bounce?

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Post by spock on 3/2/2010, 1:17 am

I also went to the RV show in Raleigh,NC this weekend and I showed my Dear Wife the 29RLBS that I wanted and I was looking at the trailer and talking to the salesman and I missed the wife, she came back and said she found the one she liked, the 31TS, oh well they both weigh about the same loaded,I still like the 29RLBS

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Post by moo2613 on 3/2/2010, 2:22 pm

I don't think it will be a problem for your truck. You may want to look into air bags just to keep the truck level, but it will handle the weight no problem. Most people on here try to get as much weight as possible over the pin to make it ride better. I have an extra 50 gal tank in my bed and the whole set-up rides better with the tank full.

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Post by oldelmer1 on 3/2/2010, 4:14 pm

Spock,
We have had our 29RLBS for 3.5 years now and really like it. BUT, that 31TS is really nice looking.....

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Post by MountainMan on 3/2/2010, 11:25 pm

We liked the floorplan and layout of the 31TS much better but went with the 29RLBS for its length and lighter weight. If I recall the TS was around 2000lbs heavier and 400lbs more pin weight dry.

Same size tanks and either would be loaded with the exact same stuff so the 29 will be much lighter than the 31 no matter what.

We enjoy state park camping and the 30 footer is much easier to find a space with. Climbing the mountains is also much easier with a ton less weight.

But.... If weight or length was a non issue, we would have chosen the 31TS without doubt.

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Post by Joy & Alan on 3/3/2010, 2:22 am

We recently purchased a 31TS. The greatest selling point was the layout. We plan on having our kids and grandkids accompany us at times and the open living room space works well for us. Length and weight should be considerations for your purposes. We elected to go with the function of the 31TS...plus the hiding TV is cool!

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Post by spock on 3/8/2010, 3:59 am

I have received some nice comments here and I need to find out something, I hope someone on here knows, I have a 08 Silverado 2500 diesel and I plan to buy a 29RLBS. I have a extra 90gal fuel tank, this is what I want to know,since the fresh water tank in in rear of trailer, if I fill up the tank will the pin weight go down. I also plan on putting 2 Honda 2000i generators on back of trailer, another 200lb, now the fuel tank will not ever be full all the time, I just need to be legal sometime, any thoughts
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Post by Maxtor on 3/8/2010, 5:07 am

We have a 74 gallon auxiliary tank and carry our two Honda 2000i generators without a problem. We carry our generators in the bed of the truck in the back, one on each side. The 2000i generators weigh 46.3 pounds each.
Our truck is a one ton, and I don't know about chevy's , but the F250 3/4 ton trucks can handle that much weight without any problem. The less weight you hang on the back of your WC the better.

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Post by spock on 3/8/2010, 12:43 pm

I know what the weight of the generators is, but I have to build a box for them to keep generators from walking off and a 10gal extended run fuel tank. When I load camper for trip and fuel tank plus batteries, I have to shift some weight off the pin. I can not scale that much weight, I can pull the weight fine but I have to shift some pin weight. I owe to much money on my chevy to trade it for a 3500 and if all I could get was a ford I would stop camping and talk DW into backpacking, DW does not like to sleep on the ground.
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Post by Maxtor on 3/8/2010, 3:48 pm

spock wrote:I know what the weight of the generators is, but I have to build a box for them to keep generators from walking off and a 10gal extended run fuel tank. When I load camper for trip and fuel tank plus batteries, I have to shift some weight off the pin. I can not scale that much weight, I can pull the weight fine but I have to shift some pin weight. I owe to much money on my chevy to trade it for a 3500 and if all I could get was a ford I would stop camping and talk DW into backpacking, DW does not like to sleep on the ground.
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I see,, you would rather push a Chevy than drive a Ford. Hopefully a Chevy guy will post a solution. If you add weight to the rear, look into adding support to the mounting point, as some of us have done. The WC bumpers will not support much. Us Ford guys do not have to worry about to much weight on the pin. On our 2006 on both sides of the bed in the rear where I keep the generators, there are rings that are attached to the bed that you can chain things to, so that they will not walk away.


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Post by azandy700 on 3/8/2010, 5:44 pm

I think pushing the Chev would be a lot of work. Especially if the Cat is hooked up.

GM has hooks to chain to for security. We loaded our 2500 with firewood, water, additional tools etc. It was full to the pin. Handled the extra weight fine.
If you fill with water, yes you will offset front weight. Our new truck this year has airbags to level all. We tend to load pin heavy so this will be nice this year.
You can load up and see how you are sitting. I'm sure, unless you load crazy, there won't be a problem.

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Post by spock on 3/8/2010, 7:08 pm

I guess what I will have to do is borrow a 29RLBS from the dealer and load it up and head for the scales, if I had a 3500 it would not be a problem,but I can not afford a 3500. I plan on putting a hitch on back of trailer, bolt on or weld one on,that will hold 500lb,,I would never put anything on bumper of a trailer, put the generators there. just wondering what happens to generators when it rains, mine costs to much to have them get wet. I plan to be legal sometime with truck, maybe not all the time, so thats why I was asking about the weight in the rear of trailer, I need to be about 300lb less on that pin weight. Thats what I need to know. Some people like Fords and some like Chevys. I know my truck GVWR is 9200lb and a Ford GVWR is 8800lb

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Post by spock on 3/8/2010, 7:14 pm

My son likes Fords and me I like Chevys. I think both will pull a trailer good, its what you like, I do like a Wildcat 29RLBS but if I can not scale it legal sometimes I can not buy it, my son says take the fuel tank out and its no problem, I just hate to stop a lot for fuel at gas stations

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Post by moo2613 on 3/8/2010, 7:36 pm

When do you plan on having to cross scales?? The truck will handle it all just fine, and again, I would recommend air bags just to keep the truck level while loaded up. If nothing else, it keeps your headlights where they are supposed to be.

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Post by kcnielsen on 3/8/2010, 9:29 pm

You can calculate how much the pin weight will be reduced when adding weight to the rear by multiplying the weight added on the back by the distance from the weight to the center of the trailer suspension and dividing by the distance from the center of the trailer suspension to the pin. The amount of weight added to the suspension is the total of the weight added to the back plus the amount the pin weight is reduced. As a rule the pin weight should not be less then 15% of the total trailer weight to avoid handling problems.

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