Ford Super Duty Job 2 Air Dam

I have a Job 1 2008 F350 Super Duty 4x4 with the short air dam up front. I just got the Job 2 4x4 air dam which is about 4 inches longer than the job 1. It's supposed to clean up the air flow going under the truck and get you a bit better mileage. I figure that for $115 even if it only improves my mileage 0.5, it'll pay for itself on the trip to Yellowstone.

I'm heading out camping this weekend, but I'll put it on next Saturday and post pictures of before and after and then update everyone on mileage to see if it improves.

WERE GOING TO DISNEYLAND!

Hi Mark,

Wasn't sure what a Job 2 4x4 air dam was. Ended up at thedieselstop to see what it was.

Let us know what you think, and have a GREAT TIME at Disneyland.

oldelmer1 wrote:Wasn't sure what a Job 2 4x4 air dam was.

The 2008 Super Duty was first built in December of 2006 for delivery in January 2007. The reason they stated selling a 2008 model year (MY) at the beginning of 2007 was that beginning in 2007 all diesel engines had to satisfy new EPA emission requirements regarding NOx and particulates. Since Ford was going to be building this truck for nearly two model years, they denoted which variation was built. Job 1 was the first off the line. I got mine in February 2007 with a build date the first week of January. Sometime in the summer, they started building job 2 trucks. Big differences were the addition of a wide-track front end for the F350 to give it the turning radius of the F450 (bummer, I would have liked that). They also started putting a longer front air dam on the 4x4s to increase the mileage (new diesel trucks from all three manufactures suffered a big MPG hit to comply with emissions.) Job 3 trucks I think stated building in the winter of 2007 - 2008 (I stopped paying attention to the particulars, so I don't really know what was changed with job 3 trucks.) They are no longer building the 2008 MY Super Duty and are switching over the factory to make the 2009 MY. But, from what I hear with the sales of trucks down big time, it may be an extended shut down to work off excess inventory.

Well, I just got back from a 180 mile road trip, empty and I got 14.3 MPG which is about 1 MPG higher than my last trip over similar conditions, so it does look like it gives better mileage, even if this is only the first tank and I don't have the exact MPG numbers I got last time.

Since I do track each tank, time will tell if this little $120 modification pays for itself.

mattebury wrote:Well, I just got back from a 180 mile road trip, empty and I got 14.3 MPG which is about 1 MPG higher than my last trip over similar conditions,

Pulling the cat? If so, I'm impressed.

Tell Goofy I said hi.

scottz wrote:Pulling the cat? If so, I'm impressed.

No towing, was bob tailin' it.

Ok, that's understandable.

Do you really only get 14.3 empty? I averaged 12.4 on my 4700 mile trip through the mountains pulling the cat. I would think that your truck would get at least 17 empty. I usually average between 18 and 21 while empty, depending on how I drive. Sorry, not trying to change the subject of the thread, just wondering.

moo2613 wrote:Do you really only get 14.3 empty? I averaged 12.4 on my 4700 mile trip through the mountains pulling the cat. I would think that your truck would get at least 17 empty. I usually average between 18 and 21 while empty, depending on how I drive. Sorry, not trying to change the subject of the thread, just wondering.

No problem, I get that question a lot from people with older, simpler diesels (no offense meant, it's just that pre 2007 diesels don't have all the emissions equipment).

Let's see:

1. Truck weighs almost 9,000 lbs (Fords are generally heavier, similar Chevy and Dodge trucks are about 1,000 lbs lighter)
   
2. It's a 1-ton dually, more tires = more rolling resistance.
   
3. 4x4 = more moving parts (same as yours).
   
4. And, most importantly, it's 2007 diesel emission compliant.

From what I hear (I don't know anyone with a DPF diesel), the new GM and Dodge mileage isn't too much different than Ford. It's new motors for everyone and everyone is complaining about poor mileage, but I'm sure that the big three will work on their fueling programs to suqeeze a bit more out and still maintain emissions. It's weird to look at the tailpipe and not see soot.

mattebury wrote:

moo2613 wrote:Do you really only get 14.3 empty? I averaged 12.4 on my 4700 mile trip through the mountains pulling the cat. I would think that your truck would get at least 17 empty. I usually average between 18 and 21 while empty, depending on how I drive. Sorry, not trying to change the subject of the thread, just wondering.

No problem, I get that question a lot from people with older, simpler diesels (no offense meant, it's just that pre 2007 diesels don't have all the emissions equipment).

Let's see:

1. Truck weighs almost 9,000 lbs (Fords are generally heavier, similar Chevy and Dodge trucks are about 1,000 lbs lighter)
   
2. It's a 1-ton dually, more tires = more rolling resistance.
   
3. 4x4 = more moving parts (same as yours).
   
4. And, most importantly, it's 2007 diesel emission compliant.

From what I hear (I don't know anyone with a DPF diesel), the new GM and Dodge mileage isn't too much different than Ford. It's new motors for everyone and everyone is complaining about poor mileage, but I'm sure that the big three will work on their fueling programs to suqeeze a bit more out and still maintain emissions. It's weird to look at the tailpipe and not see soot.

Well stated Mark;

Another thing is that the new 2008 PSD has more power than our older (2006) trucks, even with all the smog equipment. We averaged 13.3 pulling our 29rlbs on our trip, which is not as good as some of the Cummins engines, but when we hit hills, both of the Dodges that had about the same size 5th wheels as we did, could not keep up, so with more power you get less mpg.

Maxtor wrote:Well stated Mark;

Another thing is that the new 2008 PSD has more power than our older (2006) trucks, even with all the smog equipment. We averaged 13.3 pulling our 29rlbs on our trip, which is not as good as some of the Cummins engines, but when we hit hills, both of the Dodges that had about the same size 5th wheels as we did, could not keep up, so with more power you get less mpg.

True, I forgot that I'm putting out 350 hp and 650 lb-ft of twist as well as having 4.10 gears.

The 4:10's will do it!! But you will always have plenty of torque. I haven't looked into the new engines yet, mine only has 160k on it, so the way I see it, it is just now getting broken in!! From the sounds of it, this truck will need to last a few more years so that I can avoid the emission issues. Thanks for the reply, it explains alot :)

moo2613 wrote:The 4:10's will do it!! But you will always have plenty of torque. I haven't looked into the new engines yet, mine only has 160k on it, so the way I see it, it is just now getting broken in!! From the sounds of it, this truck will need to last a few more years so that I can avoid the emission issues. Thanks for the reply, it explains alot :)

Well, you'll probably want to wait a little longer. Diesel emissions get even tougher in 2010. But, from what I understand, the Cummins 6.7 is already 2010 compliant, it's GM and Ford that are scrambling to be able to sell diesels in 2010.

WOW - 2004 6.0, 18-20 miles per gallon on the Freeway, 12 to 14 towing. Modified exhaust and mileage went up. Unfor can not long do that.

I'd give my left artifact to get 18 - 20 on the highway. My gas sucking V10 only gets around 11!

When I'm pulling up a long grade, I swear I can hear the engine making a slurping sound. Or maybe that's a gulping sound.

TC

Gassers maybe be cheaper but, longevity and fuel economy can not be beat by anything other than a Diesel.

TC wrote:I'd give my left artifact to get 18 - 20 on the highway. My gas sucking V10 only gets around 11!

When I'm pulling up a long grade, I swear I can hear the engine making a slurping sound. Or maybe that's a gulping sound.

TC

At 70 mph we are still getting 18.5 mpg empty. Once we got 21.3 mpg,, but that was at a snails pace of 55 mph. On level ground we get 13.3 pulling the 29rlbs at 60 mph. Our truck does not have a computer, all the above figures were over 200 miles distance figured by calculator.

matteburry Our 2008 F350 build date looks to be 12/20/ 07,what do I have? ( Job 3 ?? maybe ) If so does anyone know what is different? Thank you

Anybody have trouble with the Turbo and the rubber hose the connects to it? May have some solutions.

The only problem I have had is the EGR valve was replaced last week at 27,000 miles and they reset the computer. Ours is a 2008 F350, 6.4 diesel.

Late '03's and some 04s had a problem with blowing the hose off the turbo, they fixed it tho, should be a TSB or something on it. Never heard of a 05 or later having the problem.

f150k wrote:matteburry Our 2008 F350 build date looks to be 12/20/ 07,what do I have? ( Job 3 ?? maybe ) If so does anyone know what is different? Thank you

I think that it's a job 2

f150k wrote:matteburry Our 2008 F350 build date looks to be 12/20/ 07,what do I have? ( Job 3 ?? maybe ) If so does anyone know what is different? Thank you

OK, here's what i think the dates are:

Job 1 start December 12, 2006
Job 2 start July 30, 2007
Job 3 start January 2, 2008

I wonder if they make an air dam for my 2000 Ford gasser, or are they primarily intended for diesels?.

TC

Nope, it's not diesel specific. But whether or not Ford was making them for the 2000 MY . . .

I have a 2006 f250 4x4 that is programmed with the hypertech and I get around 21 or so driving on the highway at 75 on cruise control. Get around18 running around town. I am stock with the 18" tires and everything else. Don't notice much difference hooking up my ally to go fishing but the wildcat is 8600 pounds heavier than my boat and sticks up alot higher. I was told from the guy I bought it from to expect around 10 ish. He has the 20's with a superchips program.

talala wrote:Late '03's and some 04s had a problem with blowing the hose off the turbo, they fixed it tho, should be a TSB or something on it. Never heard of a 05 or later having the problem.

There is a TB out. It was out some time ago but the Ford people out here do not seem to use it. You need a new hose that is made for 2005 (It is Blue with glue substance of some kind inside), new clamps or at least new lock nuts, spray can of carburetor cleaner, tube of Black silicone adhesive, and 24 hours to spare. After that get it hot a few times without pulling and when you go to remove it next time you should have to cut that sucker off. When removing you cut and tear it off piece by piece. This will not hurt the turbo or the metal tube. Only ruins the hose. Have done this for years. If you do not have to tear it off you did something wrong. The silicone adhesive not only glues the hose to the outlet and the tube it also forms a gasket. We coat both the tube, the hose, and the turbo out let. You must coat. Some silicone needs to ooze out when tightening the clamp. How much to use you learn by experience. Only way it will work. We have done this for years on all of our hoses (Pickups, Cars and Tractors). Helps prevent leaks of all kinds. The problem with the 04 is the outlet angle of the turbo, to short of neck on the turbo outlet (Need to double clamp it), and the fact that the engine blow by is feed into the inlet tube before the turbo causing oil to get between the outlet housing and the hose. After a while the hose just slips off.

I am waiting to see what the new Ford Truck will be like. One turbo and a lot of user friendly changes made. Just waiting and watching.