Need Help Wiring Components Together

Could use some solid help from the wiring guru's here.
I plan on by-passing the Concertone altogether unless I can figure out how to successfully use the surround sound only.

Need to hook up: Sony HD-DVD player, DishPro 311 Sat Receiver, Winegard HD Receiver, Haier LCD TV

http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&productId=8198552921665393601&langId=-1

http://www.sadoun.com/Sat/Products/Dishnetwork/Receivers/DISH-311-satellite-receiver.htm

http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/winegard-digital-hd-receiver/35000

http://www.epinions.com/specs/Haier_HLH266BB_Television

Need to know best way to hook up all components, and in what order. Let me know if I can provide more info to streamline the request.

Thanks,

TC

Why two receivers?

I don't know what your TV supports, but assuming you have two component inputs you would just run component cables from your receiver to the TV, and a second set from your DVD player to the TV. To switch from one to the other you change the TV input.

Tell us what type and how many inputs your TV supports and we can get more specific.

As for sound, you would need to use the TV speakers or figure a way to wire the TV audio out into the cat speakers (eliminate the Concertone). Does the TV support 5.1 surround sound out? Probably not.

If your TV does not support more than one component input source, here is an example of a component switch. I didn't do a lot of research, this is just an example.

Scott, The reason for two receivers is for satellite and for local progamming. I haven't hooked up the satellite receiver yet, but so far, I've been able to run s-video from Winegard to back of TV: Input "s-video". And the HD-DVD player is connected to TV by HDMI cable: Input "HDMI" I also have AV and P-B-Y? connections on back of TV. Also digital optical for sound. The digital optical is connected from DVD to TV, but I can't tell much difference in sound quality.

When I hook the satellite receiver up, I'll more than likely use the P-B-Y? connection and use that same input on TV. Hope this sounds right.

BTW, it's taken me over 8 hrs just to get this far! I hate wiring!! :x

TC

TC,

First, the TV you have has a built-in ATSC (Digital) tuner so I don't know why you need the Winegard tuner.

The 311 doesn't have component out as far as I know so you'll need to use S-video or composite (yellow) for video. You'd be better off getting a ViP 612, 622 or 722 so you could use component or HDMI and have a "one receiver" solution for the OTA and Satellite with an integrated program guide. They are capable of a one coax input for the sat feed from the dish if you use a Dish Pro Separator right behind the receiver. It requires a compatible Dish Pro LNB not a legacy (old). You'd still need a separate connection from the antenna for the OTA.

I thought I read where you could tell Dish where you'd be at and they could program the local channels for you whereever your at ?

So then all you would need is a monitor / Dish HD receiver/ sony dvd/ surround sound / and a beer. ?

yank the speaker wires and extend them to the surround sound system, Or check into a wireless surround sound system. ?

jetskier wrote:TC,

First, the TV you have has a built-in ATSC (Digital) tuner so I don't know why you need the Winegard tuner.

The 311 doesn't have component out as far as I know so you'll need to use S-video or composite (yellow) for video. You'd be better off getting a ViP 612, 622 or 722 so you could use component or HDMI and have a "one receiver" solution for the OTA and Satellite with an integrated program guide. They are capable of a one coax input for the sat feed from the dish if you use a Dish Pro Separator right behind the receiver. It requires a compatible Dish Pro LNB not a legacy (old). You'd still need a separate connection from the antenna for the OTA.

What does OTA stand for?

The Winegard allows me to watch what I think are HD channels (7.1, 7.2, 12.1, 12.3) that I can't get otherwise.

The pkg I already purchased from Dish Network has the basic 311 receiver with the 500 dish.

I was orinigally going to run an extra direct line from the outside of the CAT into the entertainment cabinet for satellite only. That way my antenna line can still be used for UHF/VHF programs. By doing it this way, I'd have three separate inputs into the back of the TV: Satellite (S-Video) Digital-HD tuner-Winegard (P-B-R) HD-DVD player (HDMI) Would also have two coax lines: One in from the satellite dish to the satellite receiver, and the other in from the antenna to the Winegard tuner.

So, am I making it more complicated than it has to be, or is this actually streamlining things by utilizing the TVs input programming? Wish I understood more about this stuff!! :oops:

TC

Admin...I tried to buy the pkg that had the beer as a no-extra-charge feature. They sold out just before I called.

OTA is over-the-air aka old school antenna. I think the Winegard box is redundant since the specs on the TV says it has a digital tuner for local channels (aka OTA) 7.1, 7.2, etc.

jetskier wrote:OTA is over-the-air aka old school antenna. I think the Winegard box is redundant since the specs on the TV says it has a digital tuner for local channels (aka OTA) 7.1, 7.2, etc.

Even so, without the Winegard, I only get 7, not 7.1,7.2, etc. They seem to be HD, not just digital.

TC

I'm not familiar with the TV, I just read the specs on the link you posted. Some tuners are better than others. On occasion, they separate the analog tuner from the digital. My old Mitsubishi I bought in 2003 has two separate scans for analog and digital. Worth investigating....

My TV picks up all the channels (analog and digital IE: 7, 7.1, 7.2) without any extra components. I guess if you can't get all the channels with the Winegard box you will have to keep it. Sounds like you have enough inputs on your TV. I can't comment on the Dish issues I have Direct TV and am still working on getting it set up in the cat.

O.K., I'm finally ready to put everything together.

To recap, my components are: Dish Pro 311 satellite receiver, Sony HD-DVD player 1080 up, Winegard HD box. What I need right now are your suggestions and/or preferences regarding hooking up components to TV inputs.

Is there such a thing as the best input for any given component?
Here are the inputs/outputs on my TV:

• 1 RF input
• 2 Composite input
• 1 S-video input
• 1 Component input
• 1 15 Pin D-sub(VGA)
• 1 AV Output
• DVI: (HDMI)
• 1 Digital Audio output
• 1 HDMI

Thanks in advance

TC

I would need to know what the HD DVD player and the Winegard outputs are. I'd start with HDMI as the best option. Component for the other. I'd use HDMI on the source I use the most if it outputs HDMI. On my 55" RPTVs in my house (I have two), the 1080i on the component cables looks just as good or better than my in-laws 52" LCD using HDMI. HDMI is digital (HDMI carries audio also), component is analog (video only).

The Dish 311 can use the S-Video since it isn't an HD receiver. The S-Video will net a slightly better picture (almost unnoticable though).

O.K., I need to give info, then ask for help.

My satellite receiver is now hooked up to the TV through S-Video, and works great!!

My HD-DVD player is now hooked up to the TV through HDMI. It also works great!!

My Winegard Digital Box is now hooked up to the TV through Y-Pb-Pr w/audio in and works great...but shouldn't.

Here's where I need the help:

When I screwed the coax into both the Winegard box and the wall plate, I only got 3 channels doing an auto scan. When the coax was unscrewed from both the box and the wall plate, I got 9 or 10 channels doing the same auto scan.

Then, when I screwed the coax back into both the box and the wall plate, I had poor or no signal.

When I unscrewed the coax from the wall plate and let it rest on the metal TV stand (about 3" from the wall plate), but left the box end screwed in, I got excellent reception! :roll:

Do I have bad coax, or is something else going on? My DW thinks that by touching the metal end of the coax to the TV stand, the stand is now acting like an antenna. Could this be??

TC

Are you getting ten channels without an antenna attached? Is that what you are saying?

I believe the wall plate goes through the concertone box and cutoffs the OTA signals a bit. Remember it has a built-in modulator that sends out on channel 3 for whatever source you are watching.

Try turning off the concertone and see if it scans the same channels.

jetskier wrote:Are you getting ten channels without an antenna attached? Is that what you are saying?

That's exactly what I'm saying!

jetskier wrote:Try turning off the concertone and see if it scans the same channels.

The Concertone wasn't turned on. My intention is to completely by-pass the Concertone.

However, I've since discovered that by turning the digital box right or left (with the coax still not screwed into wall plate), I couldn't view some of the channels due to poor signal strength.

TC