Bio- Diesel

Any body running Bio in the trucks. The station I usually get fuel at carries Bio also I never have tried it. It was always about 10 cents higher. When I stopped to fill up last night I noticed it was about 60 cents cheaper. $3.59 compared to $4.15. it is B20 Grade so I filled up with it I geuss I'll see.

I used to burn B20 all the time. The station I got it at stopped carrying it so I'm back to regular old diesel.

John

Do you have to do anything to your truck (filters etc) to run Bio?
Jim

kwf904 wrote:Do you have to do anything to your truck (filters etc) to run Bio?
Jim

I didn't. Just put it in and go. I ran it in temps from 0 to 100 with no problems. Only used it for about a year before it was no longer available. Don't know if I would have suffered any long term effects from its use.

Just did a search. Doesn't matter if I could run it or not. Nobody sells it around me. Nice to know though.

I hear Fords do not like it?

Good topic for Earth Day 2011...

Why not make yur own!!

http://homebiodieselkits.com/homeprocessors.html

http://www.make-biodiesel.org/Introduction/biodiesel-just-the-basics.html

TC

I filled up a couple of times when I was in Armish country, PA with Bio Diesel acouple years ago. It seem to run ok. It got acouple miles to the gallon better than regular Diesel.

Read in local paper today where there has been a string of used cooking oil thefts lately. The police attribute it to people trying to make their own bio diesel. However, they said this type of theft is nothing new; every time fuel prices go way up, thefts go way up. And when prices come back down, thefts drop off significantly. Who knew there would be a criminal element to the bio fuel industry? I just figured the fast food restaurants would be greatful for someone to take their old grease off their hands. Evidently not!!

TC

Some diesels like it better than others. I've run it a few times but the only station around me that had it went belly up a couple years ago.

One thing to note, if you continue to run it, you may have to a replace fuel filter or two in short order. Bio makes an excellent solvent and I've even heard of people having injector problems which can be expensive. I'd research it for your make/model before jumping on it.

Joel

Frank wrote:I filled up a couple of times when I was in Armish country, PA with Bio Diesel acouple years ago. It seem to run ok. It got acouple miles to the gallon better than regular Diesel.

Surprised U had no problems with that Ford. If I remember correct Ford recommends a blended mix.

I've been running bio for years you might just want to have an extra fuel filter with you since bio runs much cleaner and it will get any garbage out of your fuel system and could clog your fuel filter. I'm having the local fuel company mix me up a batch of b50 for the summer can't wait to run it through the truck the dmax likes the bio.

The owners manual for my 6.4 liter diesel says not to use Biodiesel greater than 5% (B5) and even then the oil should be changed according to the severe usage schedule (every 5000 miles). Since repairs on a diesel engine can be incredibly expensive, I’ll just stick to using Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel.

I believe the new 6.7 liter Ford Diesel can use 20% Biodiesel.

Ford's Position on Biodiesel:
Ford is advising that any of their vehicles powered by a diesel engine, regardless of manufacturer, may exhibit engine or fuel system problems when using fuels with greater than 5% Biodiesel. Any problems when using fuels containing more than 5% Biodiesel should be referred to the fuel manufacturer. Ford only recommends using fuels containing no more than 5% Biodiesel (B5) in their diesel powered vehicles. In addition, as per World Wide Fuel Charter (WWFC) catagory 1-3, fatty acid methyl esters (FAME) must meet EN14214 and ASTM D 6751 specifications. Broadcast Message 0884, 3626, 4942.
It is also recommended to change the oil using the severe duty schedule (3000 mile; no later than 5000 miles) and replace the fuel filter every other oil change (no later than 10,000 miles)

Found here http://www.intellidog.com/dieselmann/60bulletin.htm

Chevy a whole different animal.

Richard Mondavi wrote:The owners manual for my 6.4 liter diesel says not to use Biodiesel greater than 5% (B5) and even then the oil should be changed according to the severe usage schedule (every 5000 miles). Since repairs on a diesel engine can be incredibly expensive, I’ll just stick to using Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel.

I believe the new 6.7 liter Ford Diesel can use 20% Biodiesel.

Posted that Life should be on Facebook. It is a great way to face life.

Another thing to note, on my truck i netting less mileage on Bio. Towing I lost about 2mpg. Didn't notice much difference not towing.

Joel

I heard a trucker once tell another trucker that he hated bio-diesel. He said he was up in Wyoming, or somewhere in that area, and had stopped to rest. Was disturbed in the night by a bear trying to eat his truck. He said it was because the exhaust made his truck smell like McDonalds fries. I laughed, but have no idea as to the validity of that story. Still, it's a funny one to tell.

Been using B5 bio fuel for couple of years. The only thing I notice is the mileage will drop about 1-2 miles per gallon. GM says B5 is what I can run safely. I have found no evidence that my fuel filters need changing out sooner while running bio fuel...

How does a Cummings do with BIO.

What's a Cummings?

Same as yours with a "G"

Same as yours with a "G", eh?"

There, fixed that for ya.

Easy to make, doesn't require modifications to the truck. Carry a couple fuel filters because they will plug up. If you have a DPF filter you can NOT run bio-diesel. I've read that the bio will flow past the piston into the crankcase oil on the cleaning cycle and in as little as 1000 miles overfill the crankcase.

DPF filter?

Portagie1968 wrote:DPF filter?

Sorry it took me so long to reply to this. I have been busy and knew someone else's words would be far better than mine. :P

Fuel dilution in diesel engines is not a new issue, but it's one that's gained greater attention recently as lower emissions thresholds went into effect last year. Meeting the 2007 regulations requires the incorporation of diesel particulate filters to trap soot. To avoid filter plugging, however, the accumulated soot needs to be burned off-a plugged filter will cause high backpressure and operational issues. Many original engine manufacturers (OEMs) use a regeneration scheme in which fuel is introduced late in combustion to create an exothermic reaction downstream in the filter, which burns off the soot.

Understanding the Post-Injection Problem

Just saw that parts of Canada are going to require Biodiesel to be sold.

bighornram wrote:

Portagie1968 wrote:DPF filter?

Sorry it took me so long to reply to this. I have been busy and knew someone else's words would be far better than mine. :P

Fuel dilution in diesel engines is not a new issue, but it's one that's gained greater attention recently as lower emissions thresholds went into effect last year. Meeting the 2007 regulations requires the incorporation of diesel particulate filters to trap soot. To avoid filter plugging, however, the accumulated soot needs to be burned off-a plugged filter will cause high backpressure and operational issues. Many original engine manufacturers (OEMs) use a regeneration scheme in which fuel is introduced late in combustion to create an exothermic reaction downstream in the filter, which burns off the soot.

Understanding the Post-Injection Problem

Another way to much up the truck.

I realize this thread is a bit old, but I thought I would share my experience.

I have run B100 in my 2002 7.3 Ford for 60-70k miles now. It hasn't caused any problems for me at all. I watched the fuel filter on the first tank and ended up changing it early just in case. I've been very pleased. I get B100 for $3.25. About $.40-.50 cheaper than ULSD.