Rear Jacks

by oldelmer1 on 8/22/2010, 1:47 pm

I was reading over on ModMyRV site and ran across this:

http://www.modmyrv.com/2010/08/17/rv-rear-scissor-jacks-replacement#comment-2664

Take a look, very interesting idea.......

by Admin on 8/22/2010, 5:07 pm

I had seriously thought about adding something on both sides in the middle of the camper. Say just forward of the front axle.

I was thinking of a boat trailer jack that swings up. Mount it low enough below the frame that it could swing up out of the way in stow position. They have some really small one's. then just put a block down to jack it up on.

by BayouDude on 8/23/2010, 4:02 am

I had thought about doing this as well. Looks like my idea would work quite well. Thanks for posting the link. A set by the axles would be great for tire changing as long as the trailer frame could take it.

by Frank on 8/23/2010, 4:24 am

The out rigger jacks on a portable light tower type would be ideal way to to mount to a Trailer. They slideout and the jacks rotate like a boat trailer jack.

by MountainMan on 8/23/2010, 6:12 am

The loss of ground clearence would be a deal killer for me.

I would rip both those things off the first time I backed in our driveway.

by oldelmer1 on 8/23/2010, 11:20 am

Its a really neat idea, but do you think the welds and gussets would be strong enough to support the rear of the CAT?

by Frank on 8/23/2010, 2:52 pm

If I had the $$$$. I know what I would do>
I would have this system installed worthy

by schrowang on 8/23/2010, 3:57 pm

I'm not sure I like the idea of the jacks themselves being outside both the frame and the body of the Cat. I think the jack point should be directly under the frame where the scissors jacks are.

by Admin on 8/23/2010, 4:35 pm

Oldelmer,,,,

After looking at the guys pics again.... Man thats a lot of crap he's got bolted under there. Seems like you could refine that idea by 30 or so lbs.

Since your campers low to the ground,,,, maybe a quick connect block that goes to the foot of your sissor jacks would help. Your still hand cranking..... at least with the sissor jacks you can use a drill to operate them. What exactly do you have in mind with that type of jack on the rear ? Lifting the tires off the ground ? or what ?

Then I raise my front jacks to level out, putting lots of pressure on the rear jacks. I’d be afraid the welds and gussets would break

are you sure those sissor jacks are made for that type of weight ?

I set my front level, then just set the rears down til it lifts the frame lightly on both sides. I've never tryed to really lift the axles off the ground like your describing. I didn't think the sissors would hold that much at all. Thats why I was thinking another set of sissors mid way would be a cheap way of bracing the camper in the mid section.

by oldelmer1 on 8/24/2010, 2:54 am

Mike, I agree, I think the jack point should be directly under the frame also.

Phillip, I really don't put that much weight on my scissor jacks. When I setup, I have the bubble levels on the front the the CAT. I set the front jacks 1/4 bubble low, set the rear scissor jacks and then raise the front jacks the rest of the way. This put some pressure on the rear scissor jacks so there is less movement when we are in the CAT.

When in the driveway, I have 2 foot long sections of telephone polls under the rear scissor jacks. Setting up as above, the jacks only extend 8 to 10 inches, and the CAT is very solid. Of course, I don't carry these sections of telephone polls when we travel.

Yes, I do use a drill to set the scissor jacks too.

We did just buy some Lynx Levelers to try...

by Stanford on 8/24/2010, 9:30 am

Tom
I set up the same way you do except I carry 8 each 6"X6" that are 12" long and 8 each 4"X6" that are 12" long. I put 2 on the ground under each sissor jack and criss cross 2 more on top as needed then run the jacks down before raising the front. We are on our 3rd 5th wheel and have never had a problem with movement. The blocks sure have came in handy when changing flats also. Happy Travels Jim

by jetskier on 8/24/2010, 10:27 am

I would have bought a set of 30" jacks and used a 2x4 under it to get the 31". My WC came with the 30" jacks and I've never had a problem.

This is what you call overkill. This coming from an engineer.

He would have been better off with 30" jacks and JTs. Crap, he could have put a 2"x3" tube below the frame to gain another 2" like they did at the factory.

by Admin on 8/24/2010, 10:33 am

That would be cool to have the set up like a big time motorhome that has the auto levelers come down and jack the whole thing up. Now the one's we have on the drill rig here at work would be even better...... Talking about a big foot pad,,,,, those things are huge. it would take a hurricane to make it rock.

by shooter on 8/25/2010, 6:40 am

I lowered our jacks a while ago by adding a piece of square tubing.

by moo2613 on 8/25/2010, 8:22 am

The Bigfoot system is the way to go. I just lower the front legs, pull the truck out and the wife presses the "auto" button. I then go to the cooler for an adult beverage and by the time I get it opened and have a refreshing swig, the wife has the slides out and we are perfectly level / stable.

by oldelmer1 on 8/25/2010, 9:19 am

Hi Brad,

I guess you have this system on your Cameo, was it installed at the factory or after market? Did you install it?

Got pictures????

by moo2613 on 8/25/2010, 9:46 am

Installed at factory as a standard option. I can take some pics. I think the install would be very easy, each leg has its own system, you just need to run wires from control board to each leg. They will easily pick the Cameo wheels off the ground. Very handy if I need to change a flat. If you look at a new Cedar Creek, they already have the mounting brackets for them, and the new Wildcats may also, I don't know.

by jetskier on 8/25/2010, 10:15 am

All yours for $3900

http://www.quadraleveler.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3&products_id=89&zenid=a3c4ebd0910faf9cab67b42d3fd560f9

by Wildcat Chris on 12/13/2010, 1:10 pm

Admin wrote: That would be cool to have the set up like a big time motorhome that has the auto levelers come down and jack the whole thing up. Now the one's we have on the drill rig here at work would be even better...... Talking about a big foot pad,,,,, those things are huge. it would take a hurricane to make it rock.

New Wildcat option! LevelUp hydraulic 6-point auto leveling system:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTIH9lnE-iM

by MountainMan on 12/13/2010, 1:19 pm

That is nice!

Both the level up and the new slide system. goodjob

by Carpe Diem on 12/13/2010, 5:02 pm

Looks so easy.....even the DW got it done Laughing

by Mopar_Earl on 12/13/2010, 7:23 pm

I'm planning to get Level-up installed on my WC @ Trailair. Maybe this spring.

Earl

by oldelmer1 on 12/14/2010, 5:37 am

Earl,

In the Montana forum that also belong too, Montana has a rally every September in Indiana, all the major RV suppliers are there, including LCI with their Level-UP system. Some of the folks had it installed at the Rally price of...... $2500. Laughing

They said its regular price is $4500. That's a HUGE savings, but is has to be done at the factory, in, I believe, Goshen, Indiana.

I would really have to think hard for $2500. $4500, well, thats a lot...

by jetskier on 12/14/2010, 6:24 am

oldelmer1 wrote:I would really have to think hard for $2500. $4500, well, thats a lot...

Ah, yeah, $2500....$4500. That's peanuts compared to the money you spent on the new truck and trailer this year. Yes, I'm jealous, but content. clown

I'd be happy with a folding step that actually got closer to the ground. This leveling system looks like it lifts the trailer. The triple step is no match.

by Mopar_Earl on 12/15/2010, 7:26 pm

oldelmer1 wrote:Earl,

In the Montana forum that also belong too, Montana has a rally every September in Indiana, all the major RV suppliers are there, including LCI with their Level-UP system. Some of the folks had it installed at the Rally price of...... $2500. They said its regular price is $4500. That's a HUGE savings, but is has to be done at the factory, in, I believe, Goshen, Indiana.

I would really have to think hard for $2500. $4500, well, thats a lot...

Yeah they offer discounts at a lot of Rallies but I don't go to any of them. Yeah, they install the level-up at Trailair. I've been in contact with them serveral times.

It's only money Tom, if you don't spend it, it has no value at all. lol!

Yeah it is a lot of money but I really really really hate hauling and missing with boards and blocks and guessing how many boards do I need. Than after an hour you get it perfectly level for it to only sink by the next day and it's no longer level. Than you add really hot days to all this work or worse yet, raining while doing this. It's the most pain the butt part of camping and I really hate it. So Long story short, I'm spending the cash to improve my camping and my stress. Also I can take it off and put it on my next unit.

Earl

by Sean on 12/15/2010, 7:30 pm

Way to go Earl, there are no pockets in a shroud, and if you have it flaunt it.
Also great idea about fixing it to the next unit, just remember to keep them old jacks
Sean

by BobnPi on 12/16/2010, 4:44 am

Earl, you are on my list now. I had convinced myself that it was just too much to pay for the leveling. You have just reversed my decision and now I MUST have this. Rain, summer heat, settling, etc. Now I have to get the DW to set up a few times so she will agree with me that it's worth it. lol!

by kwf904 on 12/16/2010, 6:48 am

Just a question on the LevelUp system. The woman gets out of the truck while it is still attached to the 5er. If the truck is still hooked when you start the leveling process How are you going to release the pin if it has a lot of tension on it? Am I missing something?

by jetskier on 12/16/2010, 7:09 am

kwf904 wrote:Just a question on the LevelUp system. The woman gets out of the truck while it is still attached to the 5er. If the truck is still hooked when you start the leveling process How are you going to release the pin if it has a lot of tension on it? Am I missing something?

I had that same thought. I've been in some interesting scenarios where I had to lower the front of the trailer to level.

This camping trip comes to mind. The pin box is about 30" off the ground. If you look hard enough, the frame is about 10" off the ground at the front jacks.

by oldelmer1 on 12/16/2010, 7:18 am

kwf904 wrote:Just a question on the LevelUp system. The woman gets out of the truck while it is still attached to the 5er. If the truck is still hooked when you start the leveling process How are you going to release the pin if it has a lot of tension on it? Am I missing something?

I would imagine that we are just not seeing that step. It would HAVE to be unhooked, or else you couldn't go for a BEER RUN!!!

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