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Post by carrollti on 7/9/2010, 2:19 pm

We are having problems with the breakers tripping. Has anybody else have the same thing happen to them? We were fixin supper last night and the DW started up the microwave and boom it tripped the main breaker went to reset and then the 20 amp A/C breaker tripped got them reset. I am thinking of replacing the breakers - thinking that they are weak. Any thoughts?

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Post by schrowang on 7/9/2010, 2:40 pm

Tim,

Need to know some things before I can comment on your question.

How old is your unit?
Have the breakers been used extensively as switches (to turn a circuit on and off)?
What was the exterior temp at the time?
Was the park power at the rated capacity (120VAC) at the time?
Was anything else on the 120VAC side being used (like a lamp or a coffee pot, etc.)?

All these things will have an impact on the way power flows through your breakers.

Just this past week we had the A/C unit and the Keurig coffee maker going at dinner time and the DW used the microwave. POP goes the BREAKER! Actually it was the 30A main at the power box outside. I measured the park power and it was at 108VAC. That's low, but not unusual on a very hot summer day. It is usually well within the 118 to 120VAC range.

Breakers will get weak when they are used as switches. We replace our 30A and 50A breakers in the park alot in the summer. You can tell when they're weak by how easily they can be finger tripped. They actually manufacture a breaker that can be used as a switch, but they are prohibitively expensive for a park that has 180+ campsites.

I'd analyze just what was on at the time that the breakers tripped, rather than assume that they're weak.

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Post by carrollti on 7/9/2010, 3:12 pm

schrowang wrote:Tim,

Need to know some things before I can comment on your question.

How old is your unit? 2008
Have the breakers been used extensively as switches (to turn a circuit on and off)? No
What was the exterior temp at the time? 98-100
Was the park power at the rated capacity (120VAC) at the time? Didn't check
Was anything else on the 120VAC side being used (like a lamp or a coffee pot, etc.)? lights-tv-lap top-A/C-refrig.-DW started microwave

All these things will have an impact on the way power flows through your breakers.

Just this past week we had the A/C unit and the Keurig coffee maker going at dinner time and the DW used the microwave. POP goes the BREAKER! Actually it was the 30A main at the power box outside. I measured the park power and it was at 108VAC. That's low, but not unusual on a very hot summer day. It is usually well within the 118 to 120VAC range.

Breakers will get weak when they are used as switches. We replace our 30A and 50A breakers in the park alot in the summer. You can tell when they're weak by how easily they can be finger tripped. They actually manufacture a breaker that can be used as a switch, but they are prohibitively expensive for a park that has 180+ campsites.

I'd analyze just what was on at the time that the breakers tripped, rather than assume that they're weak.

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Post by MountainMan on 7/9/2010, 3:31 pm

Sounds like a simple overload to me or perhaps a loose connection. Breakers rarely go bad unless overloaded frequently/often.

One question - Was the 20 amp breaker the lower half of the tandem with your main 30 amp breaker?

If so; Heat from the overloaded main could easily transfer to the tandem 20 amp and cause a trip.

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Post by schrowang on 7/11/2010, 12:58 pm

Tim,

What MountainMan said. Sure sounds like an overload. Hadn't thought of the heat transfer from one breaker to another. Nice catch MM.

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Post by carrollti on 7/12/2010, 5:06 am

MountainMan wrote:Sounds like a simple overload to me or perhaps a loose connection. Breakers rarely go bad unless overloaded frequently/often.

One question - Was the 20 amp breaker the lower half of the tandem with your main 30 amp breaker?

If so; Heat from the overloaded main could easily transfer to the tandem 20 amp and cause a trip.


Yes both the 30 and the 20 are together then there are 2 sets of double 15 amp breakers. I check all of the screws when we got home last night and all were tight. When the main breaker (30) tripped and then the 20 tripped when I went to reset them that breaker was warm. So the heat transfer could have caused the 20 to trip

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Post by TC on 7/12/2010, 7:15 am

Tim, is this problem happening just at this particular CG? Several here have installed autoformers to prevent over/under current to their units. If this CG has dirty power that's fluctuating, this can be the root cause of your problem. It might not be a problem with your Cat's breakers at all.

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Post by dmcathey on 7/13/2010, 6:09 am

We have been having the same problem! we have a 2010 QBBS - and it has been happening at different campsites... It is getting very anoying!

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Post by carrollti on 7/13/2010, 2:44 pm

TC wrote:Tim, is this problem happening just at this particular CG? Several here have installed autoformers to prevent over/under current to their units. If this CG has dirty power that's fluctuating, this can be the root cause of your problem. It might not be a problem with your Cat's breakers at all.

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No it is at different sites including here at the house.

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