JT Stabilizers or King Pin Stabilizer?
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JT Stabilizers or King Pin Stabilizer?
One thing that I will be purchasing this year (as opposed to adding it to the list and hoping for it) is a stabilizer system for the cat. Wondering what everyones preference is. I'm leaning toward the stabilizers that attach to the WC and the landing gear, but wondering how much that can actually help. Anyone have any experience with one or both of them?

dragynj- Member

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Re: JT Stabilizers or King Pin Stabilizer?
JT's. They stabilize the trailer from both ends not just the front. I was shocked how stiff the trailer was after installing them.
I never had a king pin stabilizer to compare to. The rear stabilizer in the JT kit really removing a good chuck of the movement from the axles.
The king pin alone can't do that.
Oh, bonus.....you don't have to store the JT's like you would with a King pin setup.
I never had a king pin stabilizer to compare to. The rear stabilizer in the JT kit really removing a good chuck of the movement from the axles.
The king pin alone can't do that.
Oh, bonus.....you don't have to store the JT's like you would with a King pin setup.

jetskier- Wildcat resident guru

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Re: JT Stabilizers or King Pin Stabilizer?
We have the TJ's on our trailer, and they are great. I agree with jetskier on how stiff the trailer is with the JZT kit.

f150k- Sr Member

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Re: JT Stabilizers or King Pin Stabilizer?
I have both and still get a slight shake . I have a 31ts with 16 in tires and trying to figure out what to use between the tires and think that will take care of the movement . The reason i have both is I ordered the stabilizers on the camper and bought the kingpin cheap used .
Jim&Dianne73- Sr Member

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Re: JT Stabilizers or King Pin Stabilizer?
Jt's here too. Also the new X chock between wheels on both sides works great.
huntr70- Sr Member

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Re: JT Stabilizers or King Pin Stabilizer?
I am looking at ordering a set of JT's. Do you all have the rear stabilizers? When I looked at their web site they say if you have the rear electric angle jacks you do not need the rear set. Thanks
Rich5117- Sr Member

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Re: JT Stabilizers or King Pin Stabilizer?
Jim&Dianne73 wrote:I have both and still get a slight shake . I have a 31ts with 16 in tires and trying to figure out what to use between the tires and think that will take care of the movement . The reason i have both is I ordered the stabilizers on the camper and bought the kingpin cheap used .
I use Rotochok's on my trailer with optional factory 16" wheels. Very tight fit, but they fit. http://www.rotochok.com/
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Mopar_Earl- Wildcat resident guru

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Re: JT Stabilizers or King Pin Stabilizer?
JTs front and rear you have give a little chunk on the front legs thwn they sturdy right up.
ddown- New member

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Re: JT Stabilizers or King Pin Stabilizer?
I used to have a tripod king pin stabilizer. It worked great especially with locking the tires (with the rotochok for example). But these stabilizer a a bit heavy and eat up storage space.
I changed to the JT's and they work great.
I changed to the JT's and they work great.
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shooter- Wildcat resident guru

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Re: JT Stabilizers or King Pin Stabilizer?
I used a King Pin stabilizer for years on my old 5'er along with chocks between the tires. This setup worked well enough but I was always reading about how happy people were with the JT's. When I ordered the Wildcat and the JT's were an option, I went for it. They definitely work as advertised!! I have the rear electric stabilizers and the JT's were installed there also.
I also use the X-Chock from BAL between the tires and I'm really impressed with this also. I never used the king pin stabilizer with the JT's as I sold it. The Cat doesn't have as much storage as my old unit so I had to cut down where I could. I think you'll be happy with the JT's.
I also use the X-Chock from BAL between the tires and I'm really impressed with this also. I never used the king pin stabilizer with the JT's as I sold it. The Cat doesn't have as much storage as my old unit so I had to cut down where I could. I think you'll be happy with the JT's.
North7- Member

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Re: JT Stabilizers or King Pin Stabilizer?
Well, I think my mind is made up! Going to start shopping now. JT's it is. I will get the front ones for sure and hope to add the back ones. Thanks for the input everyone!!

dragynj- Member

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Re: JT Stabilizers or King Pin Stabilizer?
now just a test to see if I got this signature thing down!!

dragynj- Member

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Re: JT Stabilizers or King Pin Stabilizer?
Signature looks great!
We don't have JTs or King Pin. The movement of the Cat doesn't bother us. But, then, it's just the two of us - no bouncy kids.
We don't have JTs or King Pin. The movement of the Cat doesn't bother us. But, then, it's just the two of us - no bouncy kids.
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Scruffy and Tater- Wildcat resident guru

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Re: JT Stabilizers or King Pin Stabilizer?
Three to choose from:
http://tweetys.com/theeliminatorstabilizerbyultra-fab.aspx
http://tweetys.com/jt-s-strong-arm.aspx
http://www.plugitright.com/RVStabilizer.html
http://tweetys.com/theeliminatorstabilizerbyultra-fab.aspx
http://tweetys.com/jt-s-strong-arm.aspx
http://www.plugitright.com/RVStabilizer.html
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shooter- Wildcat resident guru

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Re: JT Stabilizers or King Pin Stabilizer?
JT's and Rotochock's, here!
Had kingpin stabilizer but not stabil enough so went the other route with JT's. Best investment next to air ride hitch or maybe inverter or is it the EZ-Flex suspension. Of course it could be the battery cutoff switch or the resettable slide out fuse or even the water accumulater tank.
No! IT's THE WINE RACK!!!!
Had kingpin stabilizer but not stabil enough so went the other route with JT's. Best investment next to air ride hitch or maybe inverter or is it the EZ-Flex suspension. Of course it could be the battery cutoff switch or the resettable slide out fuse or even the water accumulater tank.
No! IT's THE WINE RACK!!!!


davemartinez- Member

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Re: JT Stabilizers or King Pin Stabilizer?
I think we have made our minds up on these stabilizers also for the Cat. Just curious if you installed them yourselves or had someone else do them?? Are the Eliminator ones any better than the JT's ones??? Priced about the same. One last thing i would like to order these soon but need to know if anyone knows the measurement between the front landing gear (less or more than 59") thank you all very much. Mark

wildcat221- Member

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Re: JT Stabilizers or King Pin Stabilizer?
Our Cat used the 59" + JT's. I installed this myself. Was pretty simple. Had to modify the one side a little, as we had a drain pipe in the way. Just read the directions and maybe look at some pics posted here.
Part number 94-9218 @ Tweety's for $299.00. Free shipping. This was Spring 2010. Prices might have changed.
Part number 94-9218 @ Tweety's for $299.00. Free shipping. This was Spring 2010. Prices might have changed.

azandy700- Member

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Re: JT Stabilizers or King Pin Stabilizer?
I installed these stabilizers http://www.plugitright.com/RVStabilizer.html They work, but if I had to do over I would have purchased the JT's I think their construction of their attachment points is much better. Cheaper is not always better.
Rich5117- Sr Member

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Re: JT Stabilizers or King Pin Stabilizer?
I turned my scissor jacks on the rear ( the screw is now at the corner instead of the side) Also put a 2" spacer block on top of the jack stands , they don't extend as far now. Along with the kingpin stand, now the movement is very minor now.
slowtruck- Member

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Re: JT Stabilizers or King Pin Stabilizer?
Here's an interesting counterpoint to the stabilization issue.
When we were semi-permanantly camped at the KOA in NC we used the following:
a. old school yellow plastic wheel chocks;
b. concrete blocks at all four jack points with old school orange plastic levelers on top of each block;
c. front jacks down until front of Cat was just slightly nose down;
d. rear jacks down until just contacting the plastic levelers;
e. raised front jacks until Cat was level, front to back.
Raising the front jacks with the rear jacks just contacting the plastic levelers provide enough pressure to stablize the Cat for about the first month. As the blocks settled and the jacks loosened slightly over time I would readjust the front and rear jacks as in "d" and "e" above. Once this had been done one time (allowing the concrete blocks to settle into the ground, I never had to adjust again. And, the Cat was stable with no sway, etc.
Just my thoughts.
When we were semi-permanantly camped at the KOA in NC we used the following:
a. old school yellow plastic wheel chocks;
b. concrete blocks at all four jack points with old school orange plastic levelers on top of each block;
c. front jacks down until front of Cat was just slightly nose down;
d. rear jacks down until just contacting the plastic levelers;
e. raised front jacks until Cat was level, front to back.
Raising the front jacks with the rear jacks just contacting the plastic levelers provide enough pressure to stablize the Cat for about the first month. As the blocks settled and the jacks loosened slightly over time I would readjust the front and rear jacks as in "d" and "e" above. Once this had been done one time (allowing the concrete blocks to settle into the ground, I never had to adjust again. And, the Cat was stable with no sway, etc.
Just my thoughts.

schrowang- Wildcat resident guru

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Re: JT Stabilizers or King Pin Stabilizer?
Rich, I was quite dismayed to find you were not happy with your purchase of our stabilizers. A phone call from you when you received your stabilizers is all it would have taken for us to know you were not happy. If we had not been able to make you a satisfied customer, I would have given you an Return Authorization number and asked you to box them up and send them to me at a specific address. I would have only asked that you absorb the appx $15.00 in return shipping and would have given you a full refund. I offer a good quality product at a reasonable price and am fortunate that as far as I know only you and 1 other customer have not been happy. He called wanting to return them after using them for 2 years. I'm sorry to say that I could not do that.
Since I don't have your last name, I can't look up when you purchased them but if you will pm me your name and possibly date of purchase, I will look at my records and see if there is anything I can do for you. I do believe in doing everything I can to have & keep satisfied customers. Diana
Since I don't have your last name, I can't look up when you purchased them but if you will pm me your name and possibly date of purchase, I will look at my records and see if there is anything I can do for you. I do believe in doing everything I can to have & keep satisfied customers. Diana
Rich5117 wrote:I installed these stabilizers http://www.plugitright.com/RVStabilizer.html They work, but if I had to do over I would have purchased the JT's I think their construction of their attachment points is much better. Cheaper is not always better.
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Re: JT Stabilizers or King Pin Stabilizer?
Diana, I did not indicate that I am unhappy with your stabilizers in fact, I said they work. Had I been unhappy you would have been the first person to know. However, after having seen and handled the JT Stabilizers, I must stand on my opinion regarding the attachment points of the JT's. I believe that the bracket construction and how they are attached to the jack legs is much better.
I did attach two additional bolts on each front jack leg to make the bracket attachment solid. I took off the feet and used a box wrench up inside the leg for the nuts. This has prevented the need to readjust after any settlement.
I did attach two additional bolts on each front jack leg to make the bracket attachment solid. I took off the feet and used a box wrench up inside the leg for the nuts. This has prevented the need to readjust after any settlement.
Rich5117- Sr Member

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Re: JT Stabilizers or King Pin Stabilizer?
I installed the JT's myself, was pretty easy. But I did have to fabricate a little plate in order to bypass the drain pipe:
http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2530873490056654887OPmSGR
http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2384720600056654887OITTDL
and I installed a new cross member to the rear frame to hold the rear stabilizers:
http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2806137680056654887EFxXDO
http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2947780040056654887JxJbGF
http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2530873490056654887OPmSGR
http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2384720600056654887OITTDL
and I installed a new cross member to the rear frame to hold the rear stabilizers:
http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2806137680056654887EFxXDO
http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2947780040056654887JxJbGF
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Bilstein shocks, CIPA 70600 mirrors, spray-liner,
Reese 16K Slider, Prodigy Brake Control,
early production 2005 Wildcat 29 BHBP w/Carefree SlideOut Kover II slide awning &
Demco Glide-Ride pin-box, Trail Air Equa-Flex suspension (self upgrade - not OEM)

shooter- Wildcat resident guru

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Re: JT Stabilizers or King Pin Stabilizer?
Scruffy and Tater wrote:Signature looks great!
We don't have JTs or King Pin. The movement of the Cat doesn't bother us. But, then, it's just the two of us - no bouncy kids.
WOW. Ours U have to have something. When someone is up front and you are on the toilet well let me tell you U better not have sea sickness.

Portagie1968- Wildcat resident guru

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Re: JT Stabilizers or King Pin Stabilizer?
Just ordered the JT Stabilizers today from Tweety's, also ordered the set of elephant feet from Tweety's. Can't wait for Spring. Thanks for waving the shipping on both Tweety's.

wildcat221- Member

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Re: JT Stabilizers or King Pin Stabilizer?
Hi Rich,
My customers are very important to me. I value their patronage and my goal is keeping them as customers.
Maybe “not happy” was not the correct wording to use in my post. We have been in business since 2001 and word of mouth is and has been a major part of our growth. If a customer is “happy” or satisfied with our products; they refer us to others or pass our name on.
In your case, if I understand you correctly, you were not “unhappy” but would purchase another brand if you had to do it again. I interpreted that to mean you would not refer us to others. That’s’ why I felt you were “not happy”
There are a lot of factors that go into keeping our price low and it is much more than just the attaching brackets. It is fortunate that for the rest of my customers the mounting brackets are fine.
I can only say again that I am sorry my product did not live up to your expectations. Diana
My customers are very important to me. I value their patronage and my goal is keeping them as customers.
Maybe “not happy” was not the correct wording to use in my post. We have been in business since 2001 and word of mouth is and has been a major part of our growth. If a customer is “happy” or satisfied with our products; they refer us to others or pass our name on.
In your case, if I understand you correctly, you were not “unhappy” but would purchase another brand if you had to do it again. I interpreted that to mean you would not refer us to others. That’s’ why I felt you were “not happy”
There are a lot of factors that go into keeping our price low and it is much more than just the attaching brackets. It is fortunate that for the rest of my customers the mounting brackets are fine.
I can only say again that I am sorry my product did not live up to your expectations. Diana
Rich5117 wrote:Diana, I did not indicate that I am unhappy with your stabilizers in fact, I said they work. Had I been unhappy you would have been the first person to know. However, after having seen and handled the JT Stabilizers, I must stand on my opinion regarding the attachment points of the JT's. I believe that the bracket construction and how they are attached to the jack legs is much better.
I did attach two additional bolts on each front jack leg to make the bracket attachment solid. I took off the feet and used a box wrench up inside the leg for the nuts. This has prevented the need to readjust after any settlement.
Dutch & Di- New member

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Re: JT Stabilizers or King Pin Stabilizer?
Tweety's is FAST, WOW i ordered the JT's Stabilizer set and Elephant Feet set for our Cat and it took 2 days to get to me. Plus there was no shipping for the Stabilizers and they also waved the shipping on the Elephant feet. I am impressed with that kind of customer service so i WILL be buying from them again for sure.

wildcat221- Member

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Re: JT Stabilizers or King Pin Stabilizer?
Mark,
I ordered my Pullrite hitch from Tweety's and received it in 2 days also, they are FAST!!!
I ordered my Pullrite hitch from Tweety's and received it in 2 days also, they are FAST!!!
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Re: JT Stabilizers or King Pin Stabilizer?
I will be installing the JT Stabilizers in a couple months and am really looking forward to it. Any tips from those that have installed JT's would be greatly appreciated. Seems fairly straight forward but someone always has a better way of doing things. lol thanks for the tips. I see one of you had installed a cross piece in the back which really looked nice, any tips on that?? Thank you again. Mark

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