Question on the operation of the two slides??????
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Question on the operation of the two slides??????
Ok just picked up our 28RKBS today. To operate the slides there is just one togle switch and when you push open the bedroom opens first then the galley slide opens. Is there a simple way to have the galley open first and then I can stop it and keep the bedroom from opening?
The reason I am asking is when the trailer is on the side of the house my fence is very near the left front side of the trailer, so opening the bedroom slide would be almost impossible due the fence being there. I have plenty of room for the galley slide to open on the side of the house with no obstructions. So basically if the slide action was able to be reversed with the galley opening first, I could just release the button before the bedroom slide started to open....
I figured someone here might have an answer.
Thanks in advance,
The reason I am asking is when the trailer is on the side of the house my fence is very near the left front side of the trailer, so opening the bedroom slide would be almost impossible due the fence being there. I have plenty of room for the galley slide to open on the side of the house with no obstructions. So basically if the slide action was able to be reversed with the galley opening first, I could just release the button before the bedroom slide started to open....
I figured someone here might have an answer.
Thanks in advance,

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Re: Question on the operation of the two slides??????
Not that I know of. I have not studied the system enough to know why one slide moves first; mine does the same thing. Just a wag, but what if you swapped the hydraulic lines?
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Re: Question on the operation of the two slides??????
I have know idea, I was hoping that it was going to be something simple like switching wires from the hydrolic pump where there are several relays. If it takes a whole lot of work and possibly messing something up then I can live with how it opens the slides. I was really hoping that somebody could say oh just switch this wire with that wire and your'e good to go.....wishful thinking maybe.....
Love the rig though.
Love the rig though.

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Re: Question on the operation of the two slides??????
I have investigated this before as I have an issue with obstructions like you have with your slides. The quick answer is no it can't be done without redoing the whole hydraulic system(so I was told). The slides work on resistance to the pressure of the hydraulic fluid so the lightest slide moves first and so on. I have had one RV tech tell me it was not possible at all, and another saying yes with a big sigh and a lot of headaches to get it done. Some rigs come with the ability to pick slides and they have a manifold that you can turn off the pressure going to any slide. So, you would have to either have two slide systems or a manifold to do what you would like.

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Re: Question on the operation of the two slides??????
Glad ya'll made it home with the new cat ....
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Re: Question on the operation of the two slides??????
On our RKBS both slides start opening at the same time. When we close them the bedroom slide comes in all the way before the lliving area slide starts to come in.

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Re: Question on the operation of the two slides??????
maxum1989 wrote:I have investigated this before as I have an issue with obstructions like you have with your slides. The quick answer is no it can't be done without redoing the whole hydraulic system(so I was told). The slides work on resistance to the pressure of the hydraulic fluid so the lightest slide moves first and so on. I have had one RV tech tell me it was not possible at all, and another saying yes with a big sigh and a lot of headaches to get it done. Some rigs come with the ability to pick slides and they have a manifold that you can turn off the pressure going to any slide. So, you would have to either have two slide systems or a manifold to do what you would like.
Well thank you very much for the information, I guess I will adjust a portion of my fence instead of retrofitting the entire hydraulic system. However, I will entertain the idea of using a manifold to accomplish this. Price, time and money will win out though.

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Re: Question on the operation of the two slides??????
Yep, Its always a lot cheaper to adjust the fence and solve the problem. I can hear Oldelmers advice already
" Sell the House " .......
" Sell the House " .......

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Re: Question on the operation of the two slides??????
If you could find a way to lock the bed slide in the closed position, the main slide would move first.

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Re: Question on the operation of the two slides??????
Admin wrote:Yep, Its always a lot cheaper to adjust the fence and solve the problem. I can hear Oldelmers advice already
" Sell the House " .......
SELL SELL SELL!!!!!!
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Re: Question on the operation of the two slides??????
I'm guessing Sharon's still holding you at bay oldelmer.... ?
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Re: Question on the operation of the two slides??????
You got that right 
But one of these day, might be by myself, but one of these days.....

But one of these day, might be by myself, but one of these days.....
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Re: Question on the operation of the two slides??????
Ok guys, I was able to get parked my RV pad along the side of the house. Guess what I won't need to sell the house, or move the fence because of the slides this cat FITS. Here are some pics of where it had to go and how much it missed the fence.




Guess I will put the way which slide opens first now to rest....




Guess I will put the way which slide opens first now to rest....

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Re: Question on the operation of the two slides??????
WOW. Now that is a tight fit. I wouldn't have a few Rum & Cokes or a few beers and try to back it in. Interestingly are the slanted pieces on the bottom of the slides on the inside of the outside. Never seen that before.

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Re: Question on the operation of the two slides??????
Ole Yella wrote:WOW. Now that is a tight fit. I wouldn't have a few Rum & Cokes or a few beers and try to back it in. Interestingly are the slanted pieces on the bottom of the slides on the inside of the outside. Never seen that before.
Those trim pieces that slant are on the the inside of outside wall of the slide. If my memory serves me I think (read it somewhere) it had something to do with water leaking into the inside of trailer. I guess now water runs down the side wall hits the angled piece and forces the water to drip/run off. Maybe someone that has the intel will be able to tell you the story behind the trim piece.
Actually the opening at the gate is 12ft.not too hard to do. However, if its dark I usually leave the trailer parked on the street.

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Re: Question on the operation of the two slides??????
But one of these day, might be by myself, but one of these days.....
Now I can hear Sharon saying : To the Moon Tom, To the Moon
Bsmall, Now mark a floresent line the length of your two tires on the drivers side. You'll see it easily in the mirror as your backing up ,you can land it on that spot every time. Thats what I did with my pad. It's like a landing strip then.
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Re: Question on the operation of the two slides??????
maxum1989 wrote:The slides work on resistance to the pressure of the hydraulic fluid so the lightest slide moves first and so on. .
Excellent, I was wondering why it worked that way.
However, it seems to me that simply putting a valve on the hydraulic line for the slide you do not want to move would accomplish your goal. Close the valve and no pressure goes to that slide.
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Re: Question on the operation of the two slides??????
bsmall2800 wrote:Ole Yella wrote:WOW. Now that is a tight fit. I wouldn't have a few Rum & Cokes or a few beers and try to back it in. Interestingly are the slanted pieces on the bottom of the slides on the inside of the outside. Never seen that before.
Those trim pieces that slant are on the the inside of outside wall of the slide. If my memory serves me I think (read it somewhere) it had something to do with water leaking into the inside of trailer. I guess now water runs down the side wall hits the angled piece and forces the water to drip/run off. Maybe someone that has the intel will be able to tell you the story behind the trim piece.
Actually the opening at the gate is 12ft.not too hard to do. However, if its dark I usually leave the trailer parked on the street.
I did the same thing with a bead of silicon; keeps the water out.
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Re: Question on the operation of the two slides??????
I could never back anything in that space without taking out the gate.

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Re: Question on the operation of the two slides??????
Admin wrote:But one of these day, might be by myself, but one of these days.....
Now I can hear Sharon saying : To the Moon Tom, To the Moon
Bsmall, Now mark a floresent line the length of your two tires on the drivers side. You'll see it easily in the mirror as your backing up ,you can land it on that spot every time. Thats what I did with my pad. It's like a landing strip then.
Thanks for the suggestion on the floresent line. Now, where do you paint the line on the pad along the edge of the trailer? Or just where the tires sit?
Thank you,

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Re: Question on the operation of the two slides??????
Wow! That's a good backing in job. Well done. Our gate is about 10 ft. Scruffy doesn't back in. He can pull through, turn around in the back yard, and park it facing the street - ready for the next trip.
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Re: Question on the operation of the two slides??????
Admin wrote:But one of these day, might be by myself, but one of these days.....
Now I can hear Sharon saying : To the Moon Tom, To the Moon
Bsmall, Now mark a floresent line the length of your two tires on the drivers side. You'll see it easily in the mirror as your backing up ,you can land it on that spot every time. Thats what I did with my pad. It's like a landing strip then.
Ok on the floresent line are you talking about painting a mark on the concrete along the out side of the tires on the left side? Or are you talking about painting a line on the concrete running the tires over the top of the line?
I photo shot a this pic and marked a red line on the photo in front of the tires is this what you are referring to? Or paint it along the outside of the tire? If you click on the photo I think you can zoom in the tire area.


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Re: Question on the operation of the two slides??????
Just get a yard stick or a chalk line and make a mark as close to the edge of the tires as you can get.
You'll make your mark along the outside edge of the tires.
It needs to be at least as long as both tires on that side so you can tell if your straight and where you need to be for your slides to come out without hitting.
Then if you want you can also make a mark just in front of the forward tire so you'll know where to stop as your backing .
You'll put it in the same spot everytime. I can see my trailer tires easily in my drivers side mirror.
Next time you go by a loading dock at a company you'll usually see a painted line the length of the trailer. Thats where I got it from, I used to drive big trucks.
You just put your tires on the edge of the line and take her back.
Heres a line drawn on the street so you can see the line .....

You'll make your mark along the outside edge of the tires.
It needs to be at least as long as both tires on that side so you can tell if your straight and where you need to be for your slides to come out without hitting.
Then if you want you can also make a mark just in front of the forward tire so you'll know where to stop as your backing .
You'll put it in the same spot everytime. I can see my trailer tires easily in my drivers side mirror.
Next time you go by a loading dock at a company you'll usually see a painted line the length of the trailer. Thats where I got it from, I used to drive big trucks.
You just put your tires on the edge of the line and take her back.
Heres a line drawn on the street so you can see the line .....

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Re: Question on the operation of the two slides??????
Ok now I got it, thanks for the illistration with the photo. I can do that. So do you think that maybe a 4 inch width line would work or would you go wider?
Thanks again,
Thanks again,

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Re: Question on the operation of the two slides??????
scottz wrote:maxum1989 wrote:The slides work on resistance to the pressure of the hydraulic fluid so the lightest slide moves first and so on. .
Excellent, I was wondering why it worked that way.
However, it seems to me that simply putting a valve on the hydraulic line for the slide you do not want to move would accomplish your goal. Close the valve and no pressure goes to that slide.
But, as it was explained to me, the whole system is one loop so you would have to run different lines to each slide. Putting a valve on any part of the system as it is plumbed now would just make the whole thing not work.

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Re: Question on the operation of the two slides??????
Depends on how good your sight is I guess. If you can see a brite skinny 1" line thats all you need, just check it and go wider if needed. I'll take a pic of mine tomorrow, its nothing fancy. I think mine is about a inch or so wide and I can see it fine.
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Re: Question on the operation of the two slides??????
I think I will make it about 3-4 inch wide, that way it will be easier to see.
I want to thank you again for the suggestion
I want to thank you again for the suggestion

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Re: Question on the operation of the two slides??????
You'll be able to see it a lot better than you think from the mirror.
Remember that line on the mirror,,,, objects appear a lot closer than they are ....

Remember that line on the mirror,,,, objects appear a lot closer than they are ....

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Two Slide Operation
This is the same model we are interested in, so was troubled that the slides have to be put out at the same time. Is this the case with all 28RKBS or only certain years? The one in the photo looks new to me. Thanks in advance for the info.
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Re: Question on the operation of the two slides??????
Jackie, I can only speak for the 2010 28 RKBS. Mine only has one slider switch. When depressed the bedroom slide opens first followed by the Galley area. However, you can stop the galley slider from going out by releasing the switch. The only problem with that is you need the galley open to gain access to the kitchen area. Further up on this post you will see some ideas some have said might change the way the slides operate.
Hope this helps you out. In my opinion you can't and won't go wrong with the 28RKBS.
Hope this helps you out. In my opinion you can't and won't go wrong with the 28RKBS.
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