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Post by Mark on 4/9/2009, 11:20 am

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I am looking for information on best choice for a performance computer chip for my 2007 chevy 3500 hd 6.0L truck. I have read other threads involving diesels, but not too much on gas engines. I am looking for better towing performance on my truck. Anybody have any experience or reccommendations would greatly be appreciated.

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Re: Performance chip

Post by jetskier on 12/10/2010, 8:34 am

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desertcat wrote:I have the Edge Evolution programmer for my 05 6L power stroke. It has more power in the tow setting, dose not shift for every hump in the road & hold it speed good now. I like the monitoring , you can see your EGT, EOT ECT & more. You can clear code. Which is handy since I unplug the EGR. You do have to keep a eye on the EGT when pulling long hills. IT dose what I need. cheers


Why do you have to watch the EGR? How do you keep your head gaskets intact?


I think you meant EGT (exhaust gas temps). Really important to watch so you don't melt stuff.

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Re: Performance chip

Post by Portagie1968 on 12/10/2010, 10:48 am

That is what I thought. I have seen what a chip will do to a 6.0. Pistons melted, cranks twisted, and blown head gaskets. Not worth it unless U change to a kit made for it.

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Re: Performance chip

Post by desertcat on 12/10/2010, 11:53 am

I keep A eye on the EGT & clear the EGR codes. EGR can get the head gasket if it start leaking coolant. I just unplug my with it closed , better turbo boost & lower EGT, more power. Run it for two year now no problem.

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Re: Performance chip

Post by desertcat on 12/10/2010, 12:17 pm

Portagie1968 wrote:That is what I thought. I have seen what a chip will do to a 6.0. Pistons melted, cranks twisted, and blown head gaskets. Not worth it unless U change to a kit made for it.


I don't run in the highest setting. Your right then something is going to blow. Tow or less is just right for me. The programmer come with monitor & alarm setting. That stock EGR is the biggest problem.

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Re: Performance chip

Post by Portagie1968 on 12/11/2010, 5:32 am

I guess I just a little old school. I have a 2004, cat is missing, exhaust has been enlarged, egr still hooked up (CA emis will not let U on hook), factory Air Cleaner, pull a 34 foot trailer, and I got enough power were I all ready over boost the red line Ford recommends. If I punch it empty I also give U whip Lash so I can see no reason to tempt fate.

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Re: Performance chip

Post by Portagie1968 on 12/11/2010, 5:34 am

Looking for advice. 2004 with 42000 miles. How much longer would you leave the standard egr cooler in before putting a after market?

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Re: Performance chip

Post by desertcat on 12/11/2010, 2:59 pm

Portagie1968 wrote:Looking for advice. 2004 with 42000 miles. How much longer would you leave the standard egr cooler in before putting a after market?


I as soon as you can. My son has a 04 6L & it started to leak coolant. There are some EGR cooler with heaver core . You may want to check with PD or Wtremediesel.com. The programmer really help with the shifting, it back to pulling like new. Ford in early 05 had a recall & gave it a new reflash . That really kill it's power. IF Ford had left it like it was, there wouldn't be a need for a programmer.

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Re: Performance chip

Post by Portagie1968 on 12/13/2010, 5:54 am

Kind of hate to do that to soon. Just changed the coolant. I have found a well recommended one that can be put in with out removing the intake. Time to look at it I guess. Basically I got in mine what U had before the flash.

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Re: Performance chip

Post by desertcat on 12/13/2010, 2:45 pm

Just keep a eye on the coolant. If you start losing it, that most like the problem. Good Luck

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Re: Performance chip

Post by Portagie1968 on 12/14/2010, 5:24 am

desertcat wrote:Just keep a eye on the coolant. If you start losing it, that most like the problem. Good Luck


That is what I am doing now. Interesting how that cooler works. I know people who have over 100,000 miles and still no problem. I guess you never know. When warmer days hit CA I do plan to install the blow by filter. Just more things to add and change to make Ford a better product.

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Re: Performance chip

Post by isimar on 12/23/2010, 1:54 am

desertcat wrote:I keep A eye on the EGT & clear the EGR codes. EGR can get the head gasket if it start leaking coolant. I just unplug my with it closed , better turbo boost & lower EGT, more power. Run it for two year now no problem.



the sct ptrogrammer automatically closes the egr when started...this tuner is made by ford people.
they have you send them the stragety code on your truck and custom tune the truck to keep it within the limits to prevent stretching head bolts and blowing head gaskets.

the bully dog was hard on my tranny and was causingelectrical issues.
the sct has tunes you love and your ford truck will love you for it.

i got mine at innovative diesel.

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Re: Performance chip

Post by Portagie1968 on 12/23/2010, 6:51 am

isimar wrote:
desertcat wrote:I keep A eye on the EGT & clear the EGR codes. EGR can get the head gasket if it start leaking coolant. I just unplug my with it closed , better turbo boost & lower EGT, more power. Run it for two year now no problem.



the sct ptrogrammer automatically closes the egr when started...this tuner is made by ford people.
they have you send them the stragety code on your truck and custom tune the truck to keep it within the limits to prevent stretching head bolts and blowing head gaskets.

the bully dog was hard on my tranny and was causingelectrical issues.
the sct has tunes you love and your ford truck will love you for it.

i got mine at innovative diesel.


Can you give me the part number you used? Stragety code is a new one.

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Re: Performance chip

Post by desertcat on 12/23/2010, 9:10 am

isimar wrote:
desertcat wrote:I keep A eye on the EGT & clear the EGR codes. EGR can get the head gasket if it start leaking coolant. I just unplug my with it closed , better turbo boost & lower EGT, more power. Run it for two year now no problem.



the sct ptrogrammer automatically closes the egr when started...this tuner is made by ford people.
they have you send them the stragety code on your truck and custom tune the truck to keep it within the limits to prevent stretching head bolts and blowing head gaskets.

the bully dog was hard on my tranny and was causingelectrical issues.
the sct has tunes you love and your ford truck will love you for it.

i got mine at innovative diesel.


I have heard some good reports to on the SCT programmer, It worth checking out.

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Re: Performance chip

Post by isimar on 3/6/2011, 3:54 am

i can't give you a part number because it would be different.
check it out..the stragety tune tells them everything that's installed from the factory, they will ask what mods, and tire sizes you have and the make a custom tune with limits to prevent damage.
here's the link...http://innovativediesel.com/

also, a coolant filter is a good idea if you have a ford.

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Re: Performance chip

Post by etrailer on 3/7/2011, 6:29 am

Portagie1968 wrote:

Can you give me the part number you used? Stragety code is a new one.


Strategy code indicates which computer version your truck has. Throughout the life of the 6.0, Ford probably used several different computer variations. In fact, my 2001 Mustang Bullitt that was produced for just one year to the tune of about 7,000 units had 2 different computer versions, KSG1 and KSG2 if memory serves. The difference was a significant change in engine ignition timing tables. I imagine there were at least half a dozen computer versions used on the 6.0s.

If you know the location of your truck's computer, there should be a sticker on it that indicates which strategy or computer model it is.

With SCT, you have the option of using the pre-written tunes that SCT offers, or you can visit a performance shop or custom tuner that will write a custom tune for your needs that takes into account all of the changes and mods you've made to the truck. The pre-written tunes do work well, but the custom ones can yield even more.

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Re: Performance chip

Post by grover on 3/9/2011, 7:11 am

Just a general question, I understand in CA but why don't you just delete the egr altogether then problem solved I've done it on Fords before with no problems. Just wondering.

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Post by etrailer on 3/9/2011, 7:16 am

grover wrote:Just a general question, I understand in CA but why don't you just delete the egr altogether then problem solved I've done it on Fords before with no problems. Just wondering.


It'll throw an error code and CEL if you don't have that function disabled in the computer. That requires a custom tune file with some sort of tuning system.

Or you can just live with the error code and CEL, but then it may not pass emission/safety inspection even in states outside of California. I'm not exactly sure where the EGR is located on most of these trucks, but on Mustangs, it's a PITA to get to and remove.

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Re: Performance chip

Post by grover on 3/9/2011, 7:21 am

I know on my truck I used a blocker plate so the coolent still runs through it, but on the ford we completely removed it put plugs on the exhaust holes and connected the coolant line together. I know certain programmer will turn that of for you but it's wether or not you want that programmer. I had to wire in a diode into my engine harness not to have codes because I didn't care for the programmer that did that. thanks just curious.

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